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Kerem Gulec wrote:Van Persie yedek basliyor yerine Diaby oynuyor. Diger oyuncular yukaridaki gibi. Van Persie yerine Diaby'nin oynamasi hucumda daha kontrollu oynayacagini gosteriyor Arsenal'in. Fenerbahce'ye kotu olan haber ise Arsenal'in bu degisiklikle zaten yuksek olan mucadele gucunun daha da artmis olmasi...

Fenerbahce'de Kazim kadroda yok. Orta sahanin saginda kim oynuyor pek anlasilmiyor.

Mert Tokman wrote:

Kerem Gulec wrote:

Mert Tokman wrote: Bu sene Arsenal'in 6 macini seyrettim (gecen sene de 12-13 maclarini seyrettim) - hicbirinde on libero diye birsey yoktu. Orta saha da oynayan tum oyunculari cift yonlu oyuncular - savunmaya donuk veya hucuma donuk orta saha gibi kavramlari yok - bir kisinin yapmasi gereken isi iki kisiye vermiyorlar - beni ozellikle Arsenal maclarini izlemeye iten en onemli etkende o zaten - gicik oluyorum su on libero denen kazma orta sahalara - basta Makalele gelir - tek isleri oyun bozmak ve futbolu izlenmez hale getirmek.

Arsenal orta sahasi hakkinda goruslerinize katiliyorum. Kazma/kasap, defanstan baska bir is yapmayan on libero konseptine de karsiyim acikcasi. Ancak Makelele farkli bir konu bence. Oynadigi her takimda defansla hucum arasina mukemmel bir kopru oldu. Hakkinda farkli gorusler var ama cogu da cok onemli bir futbolcu oldugu yonunde.

Real Madrid'den ayrilisi olay olmustu hatirlarsaniz. Takim inanilmaz bir dususe gecti ondan sonra. Real Madrid tarihinin en hatali kararlarindan biri olarak degerlendiriliyor simdi yollanmasi. Direk Wikpedia'dan aktariyorum detaylari. Ozellikle Zidane'in dedikleri onemli benim icin.

At Real, Makélélé substantially added to his medal tally, winning two Spanish La Liga championships, the UEFA Champions League, the Spanish Super Cup, the European Super Cup, and the Intercontinental Cup (now replaced by the FIFA World Club Championship). As an ever-present in Vicente Del Bosque's Real side, Makélélé also established himself as one of the best holding midfielders in the world.

However, despite his value to the team, Makélélé was one of its most influential players of that time (relatively) under-paid members, earning a fraction of that paid to team-mates like Zinédine Zidane, Luís Figo, Raul, Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Steve McManaman, and Guti. In the summer of 2003, feeling that his position at the club was insecure after the shock sacking of Del Bosque and the arrival of David Beckham, and encouraged by team-mates Zidane, Raul, McManaman and Fernando Morientes, Makélélé decided to ask for an improved contract. The Real management flatly refused to consider his request [1]. Upset, Makélélé handed in a transfer request, whereupon he was signed by Chelsea. Club president Florentino Pérez infamously poured scorn on Makélélé's footballing abilities and proclaimed that Makélélé would not be missed:

“ We will not miss Makélélé. His technique is average, he lacks the speed and skill to take the ball past opponents, and ninety percent of his distribution either goes backwards or sideways. He wasn't a header of the ball and he rarely passed the ball more than three metres. Younger players will arrive who will cause Makélélé to be forgotten. [2] ”

His opinion differred from that of players like Zinedine Zidane, who remarked the following after Makélélé was sold and Beckham was bought:

“ Why put another layer of gold paint on the Bentley when you are losing the entire engine? ”

In his autobiography, published in 2006, McManaman described Makélélé as the most important and yet least appreciated midfielder at Real. Retired former Real Madrid player and captain Fernando Hierro also criticised Perez for both Makélélé's departure and the manner of his departure, saying:

“ I think Claude has this kind of gift - he's been the best player in the team for years but people just don't notice him, don't notice what he does. But you ask anyone at Real Madrid during the years we were talking about and they will tell you he was the best player at Real. We all knew, the players all knew he was the most important. The loss of Makélélé was the beginning of the end for Los Galacticos... You can see that it was also the beginning of a new dawn for Chelsea. He was the base, the key and I think he is the same to Chelsea now.

Bu hikaye bana cok yakinlarimizda baska bir oyuncunun hikayesini hatirlatti nedense Istedigi maas artisiyla aldigi para Emre Belozoglu'nun aldiginin yuzde 60'i olacakti (Alex, RC ve Guiza'nin aldiklarindan bahsetmiyorum bile).

Bir de son olarak, Arsene Wenger'in Makelele, Cech ve Eto'o hakkinda gorusleri:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 18615.html

Benim Makalele hakkinda ki goruslerim Baskanin ki ile uyusuyor --- yani taknigi zayif, geriye ve yana pastan baska hucuma katki vermeyen, hamalliktan ote bir faydasi olmayan bir adam. Futbolcu takim arkadaslari tabii severler onu - cunku o hamal - Zidane gibilerin arkasini toplayan adam.

Mert Tokman wrote: ...
Benim Makalele hakkinda ki goruslerim Baskanin ki ile uyusuyor --- yani taknigi zayif, geriye ve yana pastan baska hucuma katki vermeyen, hamalliktan ote bir faydasi olmayan bir adam. Futbolcu takim arkadaslari tabii severler onu - cunku o hamal - Zidane gibilerin arkasini toplayan adam.

Cengiz Akgun wrote: Kerem gibi burada Ayhan'i Makaleleye cok benzeten

Kerem Gulec wrote:

Cengiz Akgun wrote: Kerem gibi burada Ayhan'i Makaleleye cok benzeten

Bu Kerem ben isem eger, buna bir referans verebilir misiniz?

Bu arada Adebayor-Walcott 2-0. Arsenal'in ezecegini tahmin eden arkadaslari tebrik ederim

Kerem Gulec wrote:

Cengiz Akgun wrote: Kerem gibi burada Ayhan'i Makaleleye cok benzeten

Bu Kerem ben isem eger, buna bir referans verebilir misiniz?

Bu arada Adebayor-Walcott 2-0. Arsenal'in ezecegini tahmin eden arkadaslari tebrik ederim

Ozan Ersoy wrote:

Kerem Gulec wrote:

Cengiz Akgun wrote: Kerem gibi burada Ayhan'i Makaleleye cok benzeten

Bu Kerem ben isem eger, buna bir referans verebilir misiniz?

Bu arada Adebayor-Walcott 2-0. Arsenal'in ezecegini tahmin eden arkadaslari tebrik ederim

Ezecegi falan yok. Sen de hakli ciktin. Fener ilk duran topta golu buldu. Ikiyi attiktan sonra Arsenal dalgasini geciyor, laubali oynuyordu kale onune kadar gelip, vurmuyorlar falan.

Ozan Ersoy